Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll

Today's Rasmussen daily tracking poll has Obama back up by 5 with Obama picking up 47% and Clinton at 42%.

Looks like there was a bump in the road, but when Obama escorted Wright off the bus (as opposed to throwing him under it), people apparently responded.

It'll be interesting to watch how this all unfolds. His Iraq speech moments ago was brilliant. The math is still very much in his favor, but Pennsylvania could still be a huge hurdle for him to overcome. Even if Clinton wins PA by 40% (i.e. C 70% O 30%), it will still be very difficult for her to catch him, and a win of that order is very difficult to come by.

With Florida no longer an issue until July, and Michigan looking to go the same way, there will be little between April 22 and June 10 to stop Senator Obama. The Florida and Michigan issues look to be headed to the July Credentials Committee meeting, at which point any consideration of the outcome will basically be moot. How ironic that these two states in a desperate attempt to be relevent in the nominating process have made themselves completely irrelevent.



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Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (none / 0)

If Obama is excellent at one thing, it's giving a an emotional speech.  This is not a surprise at all that he's doing better in the polls.  More Wright videos will come out though. There's more to this story.  The media's back in love again.


Hillary 2008!
by New York Democrat on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 11:55:37 AM EST

you are just a (none / 0)

ray of sunshine.


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:21:51 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (2.00 / 2)

Yes, the Friday poll number dropped out of the average, and Rasmussen said it was the worst number Obama had all election season.

The Gallup track, on the other hand, evidently had a very bad split for Obama on Monday.


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by politicsmatters on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 11:55:43 AM EST

Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (2.00 / 1)

Ras seems to get a day or two jump on Gallup in trackers. When this whole thing hit Obama took a huge hit in the Ras poll right away but it took a few days for the Gallup tracker to get it.

If Rsamussen has him back up by 5, I suppose Gallup will in a few days too. Looks like the speech worked.


by elrod on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:01:14 PM EST
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The split there was actually due to Gallup's slightly longer tracking.  Today Obama's BEST day (when he hit 50) was just dropped, and thus 3 of his worst days were just propped up.

To be honest, I wouldn't expect either of these polls to be reflective of much yet.  I'd still give it a few days, maybe even a week, before things even out.

It does look increasingly clear, however, that McCain is benefiting greatly from the continued campaign.  He gets to make his severe foreign policy flubs when no one is looking.


by leshrac55 on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:47:45 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (2.00 / 1)

actually the dnc has agreed to the revote plan in michigan , so its obama's campaign that is standing in the way.

we will see how long that would last .

http://thepage.time.com/2008/03/19/obama -campaign-raises-specter-of-massive-mich igan-mayhem-of-litigation/

she has caught up with obama in north carolina .

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/P PP_Release_031908.pdf

if she wins comfortably in penn and she wins north carolina that would be interesting


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by lori on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 11:58:03 AM EST

Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (none / 0)

if she wins comfortably in penn and she wins north carolina that would be interesting

You keep making this claim but refuse to back it up.  Show us how Hillary can come close.
McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.
by PantsB on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:00:20 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (none / 0)

Its called momentum.


by coolofthenight on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:03:02 PM EST
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Momentum (2.00 / 1)

gets you a few points in the polls.

It doesn't get you 25-point victories in every contest from here on out.

I appreciate your support of your candidate, but Clinton is still relying on superdelegate coup to pull this off. Have no illusions about what that will entail when all is said and done.


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Still not putting up with "preening" posts
by jaiwithani on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:06:36 PM EST
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Re: Momentum (2.00 / 1)

I know you fervently don't believe this will happen but is she amasses a win streak which includes a big victory in PA and a surprise in NC as well as WV KY IN and PR it will be very hard to not give the candidate with the momentum the nomination regardless of delegate count.


by coolofthenight on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:39:18 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (none / 0)

There's studies on this and it appears that momentum is a proxy for learning about candidates by people who don't follow the race closely.  Early in a race, it's important but it grows increasingly less significant the more learning voters have already done, i.e., later in the race.


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by politicsmatters on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:07:39 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (none / 0)

So what do you think of these arguments about the problems with a Michigan vote?

TO: Interested Parties

FROM: Robert F. Bauer

RE: Michigan Primary

March 19, 2008

In the short time available, I have reviewed the proposed legislation to establish the June 3, 2008 primary, considering primarily those issues that bear on the central question of whether this election can be conducted successfully without undue risk of legal challenges, including those challenges arising out of errors or other breakdown induced by the schedule the State has proposed.

No one disputes that the election will have to be hurriedly prepared; and it is further accepted that it is, in material respects, unprecedented in conception and proposed structure. Michigan will be, for example, the first to state to have re-run an election in circumstances like these, to redress violations of party rules, and it will be the first to do so with the state supplying the legislative and administrative support but with private parties underwriting the costs with "soft money". Whether the state can achieve its goals here depends on the nature and seriousness of the legal and administrative questions presented by this initiative-questions that, raised after the election, could put at risk the running of the election, undermine acceptance of the results if the election is held, and in both cases effectively deny Michigan voters, a second consecutive time, meaningful participation in the nominating process.

For the reasons discussed briefly below, there are such questions and they are serious both in nature and in their potential, if not likely, impact on the June election proposal.

Voter Disqualification

Although Michigan has always run open elections, which allow voters to vote in whatever primary they prefer, voters who participated in the Republican primary in January could not vote in the June election under the proposed law. This class of voters includes Democrats and Independents who chose not to vote in the invalid Democratic primary at the time because the majority of active candidates did not appear on the ballot and the results would not be accepted under party rules.

This provision raises a significant constitutional question and, along with it, the prospect for litigation that would undermine the perceived legitimacy of the election and bring preparations to a standstill under circumstances in which such delay is effectively fatal. The claim here could also be presented to the party, under party rules, with a similar effect of putting the election and its results in serious question.

The burden on voters here is one of complete disqualification-they cannot participate in the Democratic primary in June if they voted in the January Republican primary. Their claim of a violation of their rights would rest on the fact that that the state "changed the rules in the middle of the game." These voters' choice was entirely reasonable in the circumstances: there was no valid Democratic primary available to them at the time, and they could not know that, when their choice was made, that they were disqualifying themselves from participating in a re-run Democratic primary this year that they could know would be held.

Moreover, the state will have difficulty justifying this disenfranchisement by reference to any legitimate state interest. Michigan cannot argue that it wants to limit the June primary to those who are genuinely Democrats, because it has always run fully open primaries. Voters, in other words, have a state-conferred right to vote in the Democratic party no matter what their affiliation. The primaries in January were fully open; and the decision to close them in June will not easily stand constitutional scrutiny. In any challenge, Michigan will be criticized for proposing a re-run without, in effect, restoring to voters the original choice they had-whether to participate in a meaningful Democratic primary.

In other words, the proposal offers a re-run for the State but not for all the voters. The state will have to assert an interest sufficient to justify this infringement on the voting rights of its citizens. Its challenge will be to show how, when the state is seeking to remedy a problem of its own making-failure in the first instance to observe party rules on timing-it can somehow discriminate against groups of its own citizens.

The State is also vulnerable to challenge under the party rules. Since any Republican or independent who did not vote in January in the Republican primary is fully free to participate in the June primary, the effect of the proposal is to enfranchise a class of Republicans while disenfranchising a class of Democrats-the ones who chose to vote in the Republican primary when they correctly understood that the Democratic contest was meaningless. A challenge along these lines would consume time, when time is not available, and it is not clear that the party would or could approve this exclusionary feature even if the participating candidates were to agree to it. The DNC would subject itself to legal action if it proceeds with approval of the plan with these terms included.

These voting rights issues constitute a serious vulnerability in the proposed legislation and a threat to its successful enactment and implementation.

Voting Rights Act Pre-Clearance

The June primary proposal is clearly subject to pre-clearance under the Voting Rights Act. Because of the voter disqualification feature, together with the other extraordinary circumstances, there is no reason to believe that this review will conclude promptly or without issues raised. The Justice Department is not even required to issue its ruling until 60 days have elapsed. This timeline simply does not fit within the state timeline and may only further delay preparations.

Further, should the Department of Justice object, the state would be barred from proceeding with its plan. Even if the Department pre-clears the election, objections could be pursued further in litigation initiated under another provision (Section 2) of the Voting Rights Act.

Additional Issues: Implications for Litigation

Under the bill, and in connection with meeting the demands of an election under the schedule it establishes, there are additional sources of potential legal challenge. Each of these is addressed briefly here:

(1) Voter Affirmation

The proposed legislation would call for voters to affirm that they have not participated in any other Presidential primary election in this calendar year. Should the election be close, it foreseeable that these affirmations would become a source of challenges, as we have already seen, in Texas, similar demands for the verification of up to one million voters' eligibility. Any such challenge would delay results on a timetable that does not allow for delay.

There is also a significant danger here of potential voter confusion: a voter might affirm that he or she did not participate in any other Presidential primary, by which the voter might mean the prior Democratic primary, with the result that the voter would be subject to investigation for falsely affirming what he or she believed to be true.

The result here could be extensive litigation, embarrassment to the voters, and eventual loss of credibility for the election.

(2) UOCAVA

.It is a serious risk that, under the highly compressed timetables established under the proposed bill, Michigan will be unable to satisfy the requirements for compliance with the Uniformed And Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act (UOCAVA),, which was designed to protect our men and women in uniform, among others. The Election Assistance Commission's report in September, 2007 on the low turn-out in overseas voting called on States and local election authorities to attend closely to the requirements for the timely and reliable delivery and receipt of ballots. The fact that, as noted below, election administrators within Michigan have already raised the potential for administrative strain, if not breakdown, in the proposed June election squarely raises the foreseeable consequences for Michigan's performance of its obligations to these voters under the law.

(3) Strain on Election Preparations

Those with the most detailed knowledge about, and the greatest responsibility for, how well the proposed election will work-the clerks who will actually be charged with administering the election-have stated that the election cannot be planned and administered within this time frame. (reporting the President of the Michigan Association of County Clerks conclusion that "Our software and other equipment are not designed to run (multiple) elections at the same time. There are just so many reasons why this [June election] wouldn't work").

The professional judgments in advance of the election, warning of breakdown, will be cited in litigation over any difficulties Michigan experiences over the course of endeavoring to run this election. If breakdowns occur, and especially if the election is close, it is likely that Michigan's attempt to hold this election on this timetable, in the face of these warnings from the responsible local officials, will weigh heavily against its legal position. In any litigation, it is sure to be noted, as in the past, that "Michigan is the largest . . . state that today place[s] responsibility for conducting elections primarily at the municipal level. . . . Some 274 city clerks and 1,242 township clerks . . . are primarily responsible for the actual administration of Michigan elections." Steven F. Huefner, et al., From Registration to Recounts: The Election Ecosystems of Five Midwestern States 88 (2007). An election held without regard to the independent and professional judgment of the responsible officials will, in the event of breakdown, subject the state and the party to adverse consequences in any subsequent legal accounting.

A Note on Financing

I have further reviewed the state's plan to collect the funds needed for this election from private sources. It appears that, under Michigan law, the State may, if it "appropriates" the money by separate enactment, invite private parties, individuals or groups, to contribute on an unlimited basis to support a public function such as this conduct of this election.

To the extent that this extraordinary financing provision raises issues, these arise under the Federal Election Campaign Act of l971. Throughout press accounts, supporters of the proposal and others commenting on it have referred to the private funding as "soft money." Now in formal use following the enactment of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, this term covers any funds raised and spent outside the FECA's contribution limits, source restrictions and reporting requirements to influence a federal election. Neither the national party nor candidates may solicit such funds, nor may others "acting on their behalf" as their agents.

We could expect that this issue may be raised-and it has already been identified by a leading reform organization, Democracy 21, a leading supporters of the BCRA "soft money" reforms.

Since the state is acting on behalf of the party, with the expected assistance of the candidates, a creditable case may be made that all soft monies raised have been impermissibly solicited on behalf of at least the Democratic National Committee and, possibly, Senators Obama and Clinton (to the extent that their donors are encouraged or motivated to volunteer funds). It is therefore well within the realm of possibility that such a case will be made, subjecting the party and its candidates to potential liability.
http://thepage.time.com/obama-campaign-m emo-on-michigan-primary/


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by politicsmatters on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:02:04 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (2.00 / 1)

This is so much obstructionist obfuscation.

Look, anyway you look at it, between the alternative of having NO election, and having an election with some flaws, which do you think represents a greater disenfranchisement of voters?

Nobody is going to be fooled by this sort of junk argument. Everybody's going to see that the only real item on the Obama campaign agenda will be to shut down the possibility of a redo.

And the real end product of what Hillary's doing may very well be not to make the re-do happen, because that is hardly in her hands. It may be to have a very, very effective argument when the convention comes to seat the MI delegates based on the previous, obviously flawed vote. The Obama campaign will scream bloody murder, of course, but it will have completely lost the high ground in the argument to Hillary, who can simply argue that, flawed though the previous vote might have been, it's the best way of representing the voice of the people in MI. And if there isn't a better, less flawed result to use instead, that is entirely the responsibility of the Obama campaign.


by frankly0 on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:37:04 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (none / 0)

Yesterday, the media was reporting that the GOP-led MI legislature was blocking the "re-vote", ciitng local election officials having indicated that they may be unable to discharge their responsibilities under the timetable the propsal sets.

"...clerks from around the state are campaigning against a Democratic do-over, saying the special election would break the law, and that three elections in four months for the state would be too much."


by a gunslinger on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:07:39 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (none / 0)

If Obama can really get his poll numbers back up by next week, then I don't know what else can stop him, barring something huge and unknown.  There were two shoes, and they've both dropped.


Beat McCain!
by thezzyzx on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:08:34 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (none / 0)

There is a yahoo headline on its front page.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080319/pl_n m/usa_politics_poll_dc


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by lori on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:16:30 PM EST

Of course, unlike you ... (2.00 / 1)

Rasmussen does not credit the speech:

In the race for the Democratic Presidential Nomination, Obama now leads Clinton 47% to 42%. Yesterday, Obama led 45% to 44% (see recent daily results). These results are based nightly telephone surveys and reported on a four-day rolling average basis. Just one night of polling is included since Obama's speech and that single night result is not much different from the four-day average. The reason for today's Obama bounce is that Friday night's results have rolled out of the four-day sample. Following the initial media frenzy over Pastor Wright, Friday's results were the single worst night of polling for Obama since the Primary Season began.

While the full impact of Obama's speech will not be known for some time, early indications are that it may have helped Obama more in the Democratic Primary competition than in a potential General Election match-up.

...

On Wednesday, Barack Obama's favorable ratings are unchanged from yesterday--48% favorable, 49% unfavorable. Those figures include 27% with a Very Favorable opinion and 29% with a Very Unfavorable view. Just before the Wright controversy, Obama was viewed favorably by 52% of voters. In mid-February, he was viewed favorably by 56%.

Obama may well be, as you suggest, out of the woods -- he certainly benefits from having the support of most of the MSM. But I do think it will take a few weeks to get a sense of how this story is likely to play out.


Fortune strums a mournful tune for those whose campaigns peak too soon. --Bored of the Rings
by Inky on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:22:50 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (none / 0)

My own reactions to Obama's speech are here:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/18/2346 7/3382

I think that the speech served its primary purposes, which were: (a) to establish that Barack could manage a media crisis, (b) to prevent current supporters from leaving over Wright, and (c) to effectively tell critics and the media: "if you choose to talk about Wright ever again, you are a relic of the past, and probably racist."

So, I do imagine the speech is successful in boosting Obama up a few points in a Democratic primary.  I worry, though, that this issue makes him all-but-unelectable in the general election.  It not so much Wright himself that has caused Obama's current problem.  Rather, it is his campaign's persistent and venemous use of race as a wedge issue, a short-term tactic they have engaged in since Iowa.

We got a glimpse at the kind of blowback these tactics will cause, over the weekend.  His speech was magnificent, but in the end, it amounts to the same political device he has been using throughout the campaign, simply on a much grander scale.


by bobbank on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:29:11 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama Up By 5 in Rasmussen Daily Poll (none / 0)

The real problem for the Democratic Party is that the Wright issue can't be used effectively by Hillary to cut against Obama, without inflicting considerable damage on herself. I'd guess at most she could argue that it's going to affect his electability, but even that will, on balance, only swing a few more voters in her favor than it would turn against her.

Now all this is true because Obama has endless numbers of open and closet supporters in the MSM, among blogs, and in the general public who cry foul, and run to his protection whenever any kind of criticism comes his way.

Suffice it to say, this will NOT be true in the general election. The Republican Party has never relied on the MSM to get its message out, or worried about the tsk-tsking of pundits when it does. The current glee on Fox over the Wright affair shows exactly how they will argue their case come the general election.

The Wright affair is, in my opinion, the worst "gimme" in the history of modern Presidential politics. It's like spotting the Republicans 10 holes in one before the game begins.

It promises not only to bring about a decisive victory for McCain, but also to damage, and badly, the Democratic brand. For decades, Democrats have fought being marginalized as America-haters and unpatriotic -- indeed, the vast majority of Obama supporters on blogs had loudly protested such characterizations as viciously unfair -- and we are now handing the Republicans an issue they can milk to demonstrate this very characterization for years and decades.

Every person who defends Wright, and Obama's embrace of him, is an enabler of that perception and narrative -- and as such they are a disgrace to the Democratic Party.


by frankly0 on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:53:41 PM EST

Perspective please (none / 0)

The Wright affair is, in my opinion, the worst "gimme" in the history of modern Presidential politics. It's like spotting the Republicans 10 holes in one before the game begins.

In 2004, a candidate ran after starting a war on false premises.  Talk about a gimme.  Despite that, he still managed to win.

Predicting what will and won't bother the electorate is a rough game to play.


Beat McCain!
by thezzyzx on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 01:01:56 PM EST
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Re: There's A Huge Hole In Your Argument (none / 0)

The GOP can't attack a Democratic candidate about the crazy things that his pastor says without exposing themselves to the rebutal that right wing pastors say crazy stuff all of the time - including crazy stuff about mainstream groups such as catholics and crazy stuff about the cause of 9/11.

Yes the GOP is making hay of Wright now, but they'd be playing with fire if they keep it up, and they know it.  With McCain, the GOP already has problems with the right wing religious fanatics.  They can't risk alienating them even further, which is exactly what they would have to do if the Democrats started pointing out all the crazy things right wing pastors say.

Big picture, the Democratic candidate can defend himself by pointing out that he does not seek political or foreign policy advice from his pastor, whereas the Republican candidate loses too much by making that argument.  

 


by ruskin on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 01:08:00 PM EST
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Re: There's A Huge Hole In Your Argument (none / 0)

You really think that the things that right wing pastors who are related to McCain could possibly hurt him as much as the America-hating, openly racist ravings of Wright?

Dream on.


by frankly0 on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 01:18:26 PM EST
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Re:Compare Reactions By Obama and Clinton (none / 0)

This poll bodes well for Obama, but only time will tell whether the Wright affair will have long term impacts on his campaign.

On a related issue that may touch on the post-Wright polling, I have been struck by the different ways that Obama and Clinton have responded to being attacked in this campaign.  When Clinton was attacked on Nafta in Ohio, she screamed "shame on you."  It was very impulsive, defensive, and shrill.  When Obama was attacked on Wright, he gave a very reasoned, thoughtful and even-keeled response.

I think these episodes have shown a contrast between Obama and Clinton in the way that they would handle adversity in office.  In my opinion, the advantage goes to Obama and I think it's possible that this advantage may be reflected in the polling in the next couple of days (especially once the effect of the speech starts to sink in).


by ruskin on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:58:44 PM EST

re (none / 0)

Hillary has climbed into a tie with him in North Carolina. What if Hillary sweeps every remaining contest?


by rossinatl on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 01:02:54 PM EST

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She won't but, unless she sweeps with an overwhelming majority, Obama will still have more delegates.  

So, at the end of the day, you have a candidate who has more delegates because he won more delegates in early contests versus a candidate who has fewer delegates but, won more in the recent contests.  The delegates won be each candidate should be equally valued, regardless whether they were won in February or April.  

Using a football analogy, you don't give the victory to the side that has fewer points at the end of the day just becuse they scored more points in the fourth quarter.  


by ruskin on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 01:13:34 PM EST
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Love to rain on your parade...Gallup disagrees (none / 0)

Hillary is up by SEVEN in the Gallup Tracking:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/105205/Gallup -Daily-Clinton-Moves-Into-Lead-Over-Obam a.aspx


by DaTruth on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 01:13:25 PM EST

Hillaru up by 7 in Gallup Daily Tracking Poll (none / 0)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/105205/Gallup -Daily-Clinton-Moves-Into-Lead-Over-Obam a.aspx
who to believe? this is very freaky...
Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties
by engels on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 01:35:35 PM EST

Hey, I was first ^^^ (none / 0)

Copy Cat!


by DaTruth on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 01:39:01 PM EST
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Re: Hey, I was first ^^^ (none / 0)

sorry, i did not have time to check. sorry.


Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties
by engels on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 01:46:31 PM EST
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Just kidding... (none / 0)

I think I beat you by a whole ten seconds or something.  


by DaTruth on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 01:52:54 PM EST
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